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If I remember the 959 was designed as a rally car. So from that standpoint I think the current Carrera 4 would be better in the following ways:
1) More comfortable day-to-day "street" handling. i.e. more comfortable suspension in the same way the 911 turbo is more comfortable then the new gt2 coming out.
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
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2006 Cayman S - Speed Yellow, Black Interior, Yellow Seat Belts
Sports Chrono Package, 6 Spd, PASM/PSM, Bi-Xenon headlamps
Carrera S wheels 19" - Conti Sport 2, Colored-crest wheel cap
Auto climate control, Heated seats
PCM 2.1 Nav, Denision ICE-Ipod, Bose Surround
De-snorked, Evo V-Flow
One of the greatest Porsches of all time, but how would it compare to the current Carrera 4S?
The 959 was the test bed, so to speak, of much of the technology used today, from AWD to the use of twin turbos as used on the 993, 996, and 997 turbos, and watercooled heads as found on 996 and 997 turbos, GT2s and GT3s. The twin turbos were sequential, whereas the newer turbo cars (993, 996, 997) use one turbo dedicated to each bank of three cylinders. The motor, like all the old-style v-bottomed motors uses a true dry-sump oiling system.
The AWD system is different in the 996 and 997 AWD drive cars, more of an evolution of what was used in the 959. The 959 used a 2.85 L twin turbo motor that put out 444 hp. So it's got about 90 HP more than the current C4s. It's much smaller, and weighs about 250 lbs less. the 959 is faster, too. Top speed was 198-202 mph depending on what your source is... 0-60 mph was 3.6 sec. the car was a homologation for the Gruppe B racing series, which as it turned out was never initiated. Only 268 were built, none for use on the road in the US.
The 997 C4S uses the new-style fully watercooled motor and puts out 355 hp. Like the Cayman and CS, it also uses the wet-sump oiling system - Porsche calls it an "integrated dry sump."
The other difference I can tell you is the torque value on our wheel lug bolts is 96 ft. lbs, where the torque value on the single-nut wheel system on the 959 is 460 ft. lbs.
The newer AWD turbo cars - 993, 996, and 997, are much closer cousins to the 959 than the 997 C4s.
brad
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The AWD systems for 959 and 997 C4S are totally different. The 959's AWD system use complex muti clutch design that can vary torque split between front wheels and rear wheels under normal and slippery condition. While C4S AWD system use a simple viscous-coupling that can transfer up to 40% of torque to the front wheels when the road surface gets slippery.
The 959 was the test bed, so to speak, of much of the technology used today, from AWD to the use of twin turbos as used on the 993, 996, and 997 turbos, and watercooled heads as found on 996 and 997 turbos, GT2s and GT3s. The twin turbos were sequential, whereas the newer turbo cars (993, 996, 997) use one turbo dedicated to each bank of three cylinders. The motor, like all the old-style v-bottomed motors uses a true dry-sump oiling system.
The AWD system is different in the 996 and 997 AWD drive cars, more of an evolution of what was used in the 959. The 959 used a 2.85 L twin turbo motor that put out 444 hp. So it's got about 90 HP more than the current C4s. It's much smaller, and weighs about 250 lbs less. the 959 is faster, too. Top speed was 198-202 mph depending on what your source is... 0-60 mph was 3.6 sec. the car was a homologation for the Gruppe B racing series, which as it turned out was never initiated. Only 268 were built, none for use on the road in the US.
The 997 C4S uses the new-style fully watercooled motor and puts out 355 hp. Like the Cayman and CS, it also uses the wet-sump oiling system - Porsche calls it an "integrated dry sump."
The other difference I can tell you is the torque value on our wheel lug bolts is 96 ft. lbs, where the torque value on the single-nut wheel system on the 959 is 460 ft. lbs.
The newer AWD turbo cars - 993, 996, and 997, are much closer cousins to the 959 than the 997 C4s.
brad
What's really impressive about the 959's technology is that all this came out in the mid-1980's. I was in high school back then and I still remember reading the article about this car in Road & Track, and being amazed.
What's really impressive about the 959's technology is that all this came out in the mid-1980's. I was in high school back then and I still remember reading the article about this car in Road & Track, and being amazed.
Yes, I agree - all this engineering was done in the mid-1980s and the cars were built in 1988... very impressive, indeed.
brad
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PCA DE Instructor
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