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Old 09-10-2007, 02:48 PM
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100 octane in N. va?

Is it even possible to get 100 octane gas anywhere near northern virginia? I have been searching for a while but haven't found any info on it.

I drove up to State College, Pa for the football game this weekend. When I was up there I stopped in somewhere for gas. All the guys in the garage came out and asked if they could look at the CS. They said they all worked on a racing team and loved the car. So I asked them if they knew how to find 100 octane gas. They all said that people around there went to the airport for it. Now I am a pilot and I know that any airport has avgas which is either 100 or 110 octane and usually about a dollar more per gallon then premium gas but its low leaded fuel. I would never put leaded gas into my car but several of them said that thats where they got thier race gas from...?!?
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Is it even possible to get 100 octane gas anywhere near northern virginia? I have been searching for a while but haven't found any info on it.
Do not put leaded gas in the car. It will destroy both your primary and secondary CATs. Bad thing. Expensive mistake since the CATs are part of the headers and muffler.

See Rocket Brand Fuels "Taking You Faster Than You've Ever Gone Before"
2 dealers of 100 octane unleaded gas in VA

Unleaded 100 octane gas also here VP Racing Fuels
You'll have to click through the website to figure out how to get some

Why do you want 100 octane gas? The car is meant to run on 93 octane. Going to a higher octane, I seriously doubt, will do anything.
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No, it is just one of the benefits of the snap-flash that you can use up to 100 octane. Since I had never seen 100 fuel before I decided to look for it but didn't come up with anything. I've seen people on here note that it cost something like $7-8+/ gal so I wouldn't use it anyway but I was still curious.
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How about Toluene? I am also thinking about octane booster..

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Q: Why do you think toluene is better than other types of octane boosters?
A: Several reasons:

Mindful of the evil reputation of octane boosters in general, toluene is a very safe choice because it is one of the main octane boosters used by oil companies in producing ordinary gasoline of all grades. Thus if toluene is indeed harmful to your engine as feared, your engine would have disintegrated long, long ago since ordinary pump gasoline can contain as much as 50% aromatic hydrocarbons.

Toluene is a pure hydrocarbon (C7H8). i.e. it contains only hydrogen and carbon atoms. It belongs to a particular category of hydrocarbons called aromatic hydrocarbons. Complete combustion of toluene yields CO2 and H2O. This fact ensures that the entire emission control system such as the catalyst and oxygen sensor of your car is unaffected. There are no metallic compounds (lead, magnesium etc), no nitro compounds and no oxygen atoms in toluene. It is made up of exactly the same ingredients as ordinary gasoline. In fact it is one of the main ingredients of gasoline.

Toluene has a RON octane rating of 121 and a MON rating of 107, leading to a (R+M)/2 rating of 114. (R+M)/2 is how ordinary fuels are rated in the US. Note that toluene has a sensitivity rating of 121-107=14. This compares favorably with alcohols which have sensitivities in the 20-30 range. The more sensitive a fuel is the more its performance degrades under load. Toluene's low sensitivity means that it is an excellent fuel for a heavily loaded engine.

Toluene is denser than ordinary gasoline (0.87 g/mL vs. 0.72-0.74) and contains more energy per unit volume. Thus combustion of toluene leads to more energy being liberated and thus more power generated. This is in contrast to oxygenated octane boosters like ethanol or MTBE which contain less energy per unit volume compared to gasoline. The higher heating value of toluene also means that the exhaust gases contain more kinetic energy, which in turn means that there is more energy to drive turbocharger vanes. In practical terms this is experienced as a faster onset of turbo boost.

Chevron's published composition of 100 octane aviation fuel shows that toluene comprises up to 14% alone and is the predominant aromatic hydrocarbon. Unfortunately composition specifications for automotive gasoline is harder to pin down due to constantly changing requirements.

Chevron's web site also describes the problems of ethanol being used in gasoline.

MTBE was heavily touted as a clean additive several years ago, and became a key ingredient in reformulated gasoline that is sold in California. But recently new studies arose that showed that MTBE was far more toxic than previously imagined. Organizations such as oxybusters have formed around the country to eliminate the use of MTBE in gasoline and several states, including California have passed new laws to eventually outlaw MTBE.
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